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1. Mr. Wenzel: In brazil everybody believe that Pendentive is not a walkeriana,but I never heard nothing about Tokyo,until they prove it is a walkeriana for sure.
2.Mr. Gulfreund: It is really true that Pendentive probably is a DOLOSA or a a cross of a dolosa with walkeriana and again and again ... So it is not a walkeriana and can't be a DOLOSA also.
Tokyo some people say same but it is not proved and some people consider it a good plant. I don't think is a hybrid but it is really GOOD plant so we can consider a possibility to have something inside.
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 Today, I got the following info from Japan's friend.

about C.walkeriana alba Pendintive
it was from USA (Jon & Scurry) long time ago
it is not sure but also we thinking hybrid from C.loddigesii or Angel walker
Part of lip very different between walkeriana
when make Mini Purple(walkeriana x pumila )
if make it use true walkeriana  become different Mini Purple
we know them many time
Tokyo No.1 I don't know
I 'm thinking TokyoNo.1 is OK








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Today, I got the following info from Japan's friend.
about C.walkeriana alba Pendintive
it was from USA (Jon & Scurry) long time ago
it is not sure but also we thinking hybrid from C.lodd ...


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