-- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 01:49pm [這篇文章最後由paph在 2004/07/18 01:52pm 第 1 次編輯] V. Thondlorsand x Dimchai Beauty 喜歡它類似 V. sanderiane 的雙色 如果帶咖啡紅色就更像了 -- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 01:50pm 此株為實生苗 -- 作者： wilson -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 06:13pm 好漂亮的美花 ! 花型及花色相當不俗 ~ 我喜歡 ! 謝美圖 ! -- 作者： assenw -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 06:18pm [quote][b]下面引用由[u]paph[/u]在 [i]2004/07/18 01:49pm[/i] 發表的內容：[/b] V. Thondlorsand x Dimchai Beauty 喜歡它類似 V. sanderiane 的雙色 如果帶咖啡紅色就更像了 [/quote] 真的是跟V.sanderiane很類似ㄟ!!想必這也是V.sanderiane的後代囉!! -- 作者： 123 -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 06:25pm 不錯耶,花型圓整,色彩分明 -- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 08:37pm 謝謝你們的鼓勵  買這顆花最重要的是想感受  V. sanderiane 的感覺 目前雜交的大花萬代幾乎都有它的血統 但要買原種的似乎很不容易 問到有出售的也很貴 也不知道原因是什麼 還有要自首一件事  這顆買來的時候花瓣有稍稍的後翻捲 我是做了點手腳才讓它圓整的 希望大家別介意 -- 作者： josadijosadi -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 10:04pm 不錯ㄚ~真的很迷人~就算有整過型~那又怎樣呢~ 不過分不會怎樣的~ -- 作者： wilson -- 發表時間： 2004/07/18 11:19pm [quote][b]下面引用由[u]josadijosadi[/u]在 [i]2004/07/18 10:04pm[/i] 發表的內容：[/b] 不錯ㄚ~真的很迷人~就算有整過型~那又怎樣呢~ 不過分不會怎樣的~ [/quote] 同意josadijosadi兄的看法 ~ paph兄不要介懷呵 ! :em25: -- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2004/07/19 06:36am [這篇文章最後由paph在 2004/07/19 03:27pm 第 1 次編輯] 感謝你們不介意 萬代花後翻的問題有時候也跟植株本身成熟度 及環境因子有很大關係 記得之前曾把一顆台北養不好的萬代拿到鄉下種 不但救活了而且花開的比剛買的更好 進色更深且花瓣更飽滿   -- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2004/07/19 03:28pm 可以請問這裡有人種過 sanderiane ? -- 作者： Speciosa -- 發表時間： 2005/06/02 01:43pm Vanda sanderiana is now Euanthe sanderiana.  However, DNA analysis shows that it should not be classified out of Vanda. Wild plants of Euanthe sanderiana used to be exported from the Philippines but they are extremely rare now (i.e. on the verge of extinction in Mindanao).   Apparently very abundant in cultivation.  However , a lot are actually not the true stuff (i.e. sanderiana has a very strong influence in many of its hybrids, hence the confusion). -- 作者： paph -- 發表時間： 2005/07/18 08:10pm Thanks for your opinions, Speciosaa, and it would be very useful to me. -- 作者： yctan118 -- 發表時間： 2005/07/22 04:36pm Hi all, Sorry to use this space to ask question... but is related to Euanthe sanderiana... :) Speciosa, Since Euanthe sanderiana's influence is so dominant, how do we tell if the Euanthe sanderiana bought is genuine even though it is cultivated from flask?  Any sign or traits to show the diff? Thanks, YC -- 作者： a8561371 -- 發表時間： 2005/07/22 04:45pm 奇怪大家都看到了嗎 我怎麼點不開``無法顯示網頁 也想看ㄝ -- 作者： a8561371 -- 發表時間： 2005/07/22 04:48pm 奇怪換頁重開`又有了 那ㄟ安ㄋ -- 作者： Speciosa -- 發表時間： 2005/07/28 06:45pm [這篇文章最後由Speciosa在 2005/07/28 06:46pm 第 1 次編輯] One of my Vanda sanderiana plants (see below) just flowered earlier this month.  Although the flowers not very impressive, I still prefer species (rather than hybrids) as these are truly original creations by Mother Nature. The flowering of Vanda sanderiana is seasonal, just like many species.  Its two-week bloom happens during the peak months of July until September.  It is a ubiquitously large (4 inches across) two-tone flower (10 to 12 pieces per spike), and there are three recorded forms: the typical being pink with a tinge of magenta; the intermediate variety albata (Ames, 1908), which is white with pale purple and/or brown venation on a butterscotch yellow base; and the variety immaculata (Golamco, 2002), which is white with an unblemished cavendish green base (which is more commonly known as the alba form). According to Andres Golamco Jr., the attributes unique to a genuine Vanda sanderiana hold the lip structure as key: concave curvature of the sidelobe brims; closely joint sidelobe bases; wide flattened yet slightly off-horizontal midlobe stance, pronounced midlobe jagged serration along peripheral margins; three midlobe keels markedly parallel and do not meet converge at any point; general flower color is relatively flat or dull rather than bold or striking; pinkish pigmentation of the pedicel; and a lean labellum column base.   On its vegetative traits, Alicia Javier notes that the vigorous leaves though predominantly strapped (v-shaped at cross section) throughout the tip, have a pronounced clasp toward the base or origin. The new leaves have a bluish gray (glaucous) waxy sheen layer. The base of the plant tends to produce several keikis that would later assert growth dominance over the motherplant. [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Speciosa/Vanda/Euasanderiana3.jpg[/IMG] -- 作者： yctan118 -- 發表時間： 2005/07/28 09:39pm Speciosa, Many thanks for your detail explanation and of course the beautiful picture. One of the vendors in KL told me he has a species sanderiana for sales.... kind of pricey for a normal form.  Saw an alba seedling (about 5" tall) in Manila.  Asking price  is about SGD150 per plant.  Since I did not know they well enough and did not see the flower, I did not buy it (very, very regret now) Now, I am very, very keen to buy the sanderiana normal form... :) again, thanks for sharing. YC -- 作者： Speciosa -- 發表時間： 2005/07/29 11:46am I think SGD150 for a Vanda sanderiana var alba seedling is really a bit too expensive.  The plant should be far from flowering (based on experience, the flowering plants are at least 30cm tall).  However, I would readily pay more than SGD150 if the plant is an established (i.e. usually consisting of a mother plant plus two or more keiki plants) and flowering (just the normal type will do for me) plant of Vanda sanderiana of wild (i.e. could not be a hybrid) origin.