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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/29 11:11pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/29 11:40pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/29 10:51pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¦^·QÓ¤H40¾l¦~¨Ó´ÓÄõ¾ú¥v.¤@¦p¶ð¤Í.±q°|¤l.¶§¥x.³»¼Ó¨ì²{¦b·Å«Ç®â°ö.¨ä¤¤¤×¥H P.violacea ¤@±Ú¤p¦³¤ß±o.ÂÔ´£¨Ñ·Å«Ç®â°ö²L¨£.ÁÙ±æ¶ð¤Í¤£§¦p°÷°·§§.À³¾¨¦¥X²~.¦]¬°CO2 ªº´î¤Ö©M¤A²mªº¼W¥®è¥Íª?¤¤£°·§?«áÄò®â°¡@... [/quote] ½Ð±ÐGibbosaWu¥ý¥Í¡A³o¼Ëªº¤èªk¯à§_¥Î¦b©ì¾cÄõ¥X²~(¥Î¤ô¯ó)¡A¦]¬°§Ú̳£¬O¥ÎÄõ¥Û¥[¾ð¥Ö¡A¦ý·|¥X²{Àã«×¤£¨¬°ÝÃD¡C(¹ï¤£°_¦b³o¸Ì°Ý©ì¾cÄõ°ÝÃD)
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 01:19am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]e8243[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/29 11:11pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¦hÁµL¨pªº¤À¨É. ¥i§_°ÝÓ°ÝÃD? "¦]¯ÊªÎ¦Ó¤Þ°_ªº¥Í²z»Ùê"·|¬O¤°»ò¼Ë¤l? ¸¤lÅܤp?ÃC¦âÅܲH?¥¢¥h¥ú¿A?¦¨ªøÅܺC? ... [/quote] ±z¥þ»¡¹ï¤F.¸¤lÁY¤p.ÃC¦âÅܪá¥Õ²Lºñ.¬Æ¦Ü©óÅܦ¨Ãþ¦ü¥]¤ßµæªº²L¥Õ¦â.¸¤lÅÜÁ¡.¸¯ß¯B²{.¥¢¥h¥ú¿A.¦¨ªø«KºC.°±º¢.ªá¦·¤Ö¦Ó¤p.©öäÁÂ.. ¥i¨£±z¬O¦æ®a...!
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 01:31am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]¤j¶¯2[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/29 11:40pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ½Ð±ÐGibbosaWu¥ý¥Í¡A³o¼Ëªº¤èªk¯à§_¥Î¦b©ì¾cÄõ¥X²~(¥Î¤ô¯ó)¡A¦]¬°§Ú̳£¬O¥ÎÄõ¥Û¥[¾ð¥Ö¡A¦ý·|¥X²{Àã«×¤£¨¬°ÝÃD¡C(¹ï¤£°_¦b³o¸Ì°Ý©ì¾cÄõ°ÝÃD) [/quote] ³o±z´Nn°Ýªü¥»¥S(P120857)¤F.¥L¬O±ó½¹½º.ª±©ì¾cªº±M®a. ¤W¦¸¶Ã¶R¥É¤k.¬O°ò©ó¹ï¤j³°©fªº²¾±¡§@¥Î.¦o·|¶}.¬O¤s±Ä³¥ªá©³¤l¦n.Å¥»¡¦AºØ¤U¥h©ú¦~·|Åܦ¨¯ÂÆ[¸´Óª«...
-- §@ªÌ¡G tim89
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 11:43am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/29 10:51pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¦^·QÓ¤H40¾l¦~¨Ó´ÓÄõ¾ú¥v.¤@¦p¶ð¤Í.±q°|¤l.¶§¥x.³»¼Ó¨ì²{¦b·Å«Ç®â°ö.¨ä¤¤¤×¥H P.violacea ¤@±Ú¤p¦³¤ß±o.ÂÔ´£¨Ñ·Å«Ç®â°ö²L¨£.ÁÙ±æ¶ð¤Í¤£§¦p°÷°·§§.À³¾¨¦¥X²~.¦]¬°CO2 ªº´î¤Ö©M¤A²mªº¼W¥®è¥Íªø.¤¤£°·§§.«áÄò®â°¡@... [/quote] °O¦íÁ¡ªÎ¦h¬In»â Àò¯q¨}¦h¡A·PÁ«e½ú¤À¨É¡C ¹Å´f§Úµ¥µæ³¾¡C
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 04:53pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 04:58pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/29 10:51pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¦^·QÓ¤H40¾l¦~¨Ó´ÓÄõ¾ú¥v.¤@¦p¶ð¤Í.±q°|¤l.¶§¥x.³»¼Ó¨ì²{¦b·Å«Ç®â°ö.¨ä¤¤¤×¥H P.violacea ¤@±Ú¤p¦³¤ß±o.ÂÔ´£¨Ñ·Å«Ç®â°ö²L¨£.ÁÙ±æ¶ð¤Í¤£§¦p°÷°·§§.À³¾¨¦¥X²~.¦]¬°CO2 ªº´î¤Ö©M¤A²mªº¼W¥®è¥Íª?¤¤£°·§?«áÄò®â°¡@... [/quote]ÁÂÁÂDr. Wu. ¥ý¶i £x lecture. ¤p¤p½Ð±Ð¤@¨Æ: ¦¨®è ªøªáªÞ®É, ¦³ªác®É, ªá²±¶}®É, ¦UӮɴÁÀ³¬IªÎ¶Ü? How about the ratio of N:P:K ? Many thanks. Best Regards. Sincerely, Dr.Ku. [UploadFile=Resize20of20DSCN_1101805122.jpg]
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 06:01pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]ue[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 04:53pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ÁÂÁ§d«e½ú¸gÅç¤À¨É¡I ³oÁÙ¦³¤@°Ý¡H¥i©ñ¸mªÎ¡]©TÅé¡^¶Ü¡H©ñªº®É¾÷¬°¦ó¡HÁÂÁ¡I [/quote] ¤ô¯ó¬Ö´Ó¦h¦ìÄõ¤Í§¡¤ÏÀ³©ñ¸m©TºA¤ÆªÎ©Î¦³¾÷ªÎ¥Ñ©ó¤À¸Ñ³t«×¤Ó§Ö. ©öPªÎ¶Ë¤£«ç»ò ¹ªÀy¦p¦¹°µ ˬO¤WªO¤§«á¥i©ó¤W¤è¦Q¸m³½¨{ªÎ.®ÄªG¤£¿ù...!
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 06:41pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 04:58pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ÁÂÁÂDr. Wu. ¥ý¶i £x lecture. ¤p¤p½Ð±Ð¤@¨Æ: ¦¨®è ªøªáªÞ®É, ¦³ªác®É, ªá²±¶}®É, ¦UӮɴÁÀ³¬IªÎ¶Ü? How about the ratio of NK ? Many thanks. Best Regards. Sincerely, Dr.Ku. [/quote] 1.¤£½×¤ô¯ó¬Ö´Ó©ÎªO´Ó¥Ñ©ó´Ó§÷´X¥G¤£§t¾i¥÷(N.P.K. ¤ô¯ó¥þµL.tree fern ¤Ö©ó1%.) »¡©ú¤FY¤£¬IªÎ.´Ó®è¨ä¹ê³B©ó¥bÄȾjª¬ºA.©Ò¥HÀ³¥þµ{¬IªÎ.½¹½ºÄõ¬O«ªÎªº¥Nªí©Ê´Óª«. °ÝÃD¬OªÎ®ÆºØÃþ©M¿@«×«Ü«n. 2.±q©â±ð¨ì¶}ªá.¥Î20~20~20§¡ªÎ.¥æªG²ó¤§«á.¬°À³¥I¤j¶q¤ÀµõF/ºØ¤l¤§»Ý¨D.§ï10~30~20¥N¤§. 3.¨CºØì¥Í½¹½ºÄõ¦b¥xÆWªáªÞ¤À¤Æ¤Î©â±ð®É¶¡¤£¾¨¬Û¦P.¥H P.violacea ¨t¦C¦b¤¤«n³¡¨Ó»¡.¸g¹L ¥Íªø©u¨}¦nªºµo¨|.¸¤ù¦¨¼ô«×°÷.¤S¸g¹L11¤ë~2¤ëªº§C·Å»¤¾ÉªáªÞ¤À¤Æ.¦b3¤ë¤¤¤U¦¯.´N¥i¥H ¨£¨ì©âªá±ð¤F. 4.¤p]¥Î30~10~10ªÎ®Æ.§Æ±æ¸¤ù¸û¤j.¥HÀ³¥I¤¤¤j´Ó®è¸¤ù¶Ê¼ô¤§»Ýn.(³æ¦ì¸±¿n¤§¥ú¦X§@¥Î ´£°ª)
-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 06:57pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 06:01pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¤ô¯ó¬Ö´Ó¦h¦ìÄõ¤Í§¡¤ÏÀ³©ñ¸m©TºA¤ÆªÎ©Î¦³¾÷ªÎ¥Ñ©ó¤À¸Ñ³t«×¤Ó§Ö. ©öPªÎ¶Ë¤£«ç»ò ¹ªÀy¦p¦¹°µ ˬO¤WªO¤§«á¥i©ó¤W¤è¦Q¸m³½¨{ªÎ.®ÄªG¤£¿ù...! [/quote] Many Thanks. One more Q: ½wÄÀ«¬ªÜÄ_´Î¥i¥H¥Î¶Ü?[UploadFile=Resize20of20DSCN_1101812263.jpg]
-- §@ªÌ¡G e8243
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 08:32pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 08:47pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 06:57pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Many Thanks. One more Q: ½wÄÀ«¬ªÜÄ_´Î¥i¥H¥Î¶Ü? [/quote] ³o«~§Ú¨S¥Î¹L. ¥Î¦bªO´ÓÀ³¸Ó¥i¥H.¬Ý±zªºªá.ªOªO«G»A.¥u¥Î¤F ¨Ç³\¤ô¯ó®Ú¤w¶¶§Q¥ñ¶K.¥i¨£ªO´Ó§Þ¥©¤w¿²¤Æ¹Ò. «Øij±`ºA©Ê¬I¥H3500~5000¿²GªÎ.¥²¥i¦¬§»®Ä.
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 08:54pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 09:47pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]SOAVI[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 08:54pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] 1.½Ð°Ýviolacea ¤@±Ú¥X²~»P¤@¯ë½¹½ºÄõ¥X²~¦³¦ó¤£¦P 2.agar¤£¬~±¼ªº²z¥Ñ¦ó¦b [/quote] SOAVI¤j¤j±z¦n: §Ú¥¿¦bµ¥±M®aªº°ÝÃD. 1.¤£ºÞ¥ô¦óÄõªá.¥un]§§.°ò©ó§Ú»¡ªº¤GӨƹê(¤]¬O¹êÅç«Ç¦LÃÒªº¾Ç²z).³£À³¾¨¦¥X²~. violacea¤@±Ú»P¤@¯ë½¹½ºÄõ¬O¬Û¦Pªº.¥u¬O¦h¦~¨Ó§Úµoı¤]³\¬O F1Àu¶Õ¨ÏµM.Âø¥æºØ½¹½ºÄõ¤ñìºØ¦n "±Ð¥¿".Âø¥æºØ²~]Y®t¤@ÂI.ºØ2.3.Ó¤ë´N "¾ã»ô"¤F.¦ýviolacea¤@±Ú¤£¦P.²~]Y¤£°÷«i§§.¬Æ¦Ü²Ó®z¬ðªø.¥X²~«á§Ü¯f¤O¬Æ®t.¼Q¦hºØÃĤ´µLªk¨Ï¤§¥¿±`µo¨|.³o¦b¦P±Úªºbellina.alba.coerulea »á±`¨£.(¬G²~]«Øij©ñ10~16®è.µo¨|¤ñ©ñ25.26®è¦n«Ü¦h) 2.agar base ¤£¬~±¼.¤@¬O¦]¬°¨S¥²n¤]¨S®É¶¡.¤G¬O¦]¬°¤p]¥X²~¹J¤ô.¸¤ù¬Û¤¬¿iÀ¿´N¦h¤F¤@¤À·P¬Vªº¾÷·|.(¦³¤H»¡ agar¥i¯d¤U·í¾i¥÷.¨º¬O¤£¥¿½Tªº.) §Ú¹ê»Ú¤WÆ[¹î¹L¥þ¥x³Ì¤jªº¤GÓÄõ¶é.¤@ºØ½¹½º.¥t¤@Ӻت÷½u½¬.³£¬O¦p¦¹¾Þ§@.§AºØ¤@²~.¤G²~¥i¥H¬~²b agar.Ä~Äò¬Ý§¹ "¤T°êºt¸q".µ¥·°®.¦A¨ÓºØ¥¦.¦ý§AºØ50.100²~«ç»ò¿ì?¾Þ§@¬yµ{¥þµL¿×ªº©µªø¤F. 3.ºØ¤ô¯ó.YÀô¹ÒÀã«×°÷.«Øij3~4¤Ñ«á¥ý¼QÃÄ.6~7¤Ñ«á¤~²Ä¤@¦¸¼å¤ô. °Ñ¦Ò¤@¤U§a..!
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 09:54pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 10:03pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 08:47pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ³o«~§Ú¨S¥Î¹L. ¥Î¦bªO´ÓÀ³¸Ó¥i¥H.¬Ý±zªºªá.ªOªO«G»A.¥u¥Î¤F ¨Ç³\¤ô¯ó®Ú¤w¶¶§Q¥ñ¶K.¥i¨£ªO´Ó§Þ¥©¤w¿²¤Æ¹Ò. «Øij±`ºA©Ê¬I¥H3500~5000¿²GªÎ.¥²¥i¦¬§»®Ä. [/quote]Dear Dr.Wu: Sorry, ¤@¦¸°ÝÓ°÷!!! ½Ð°Ý·L¶q¤¸¯À¦p¦ó¥Î? ªø´Á¬IªÎ¤Þ°_¤¶½èÆQ¤Æ¦p¦ó³B²z? ±z£x¤ô½è(¾É¹q«×), ¥ú«×(Lux)? Many Thanks.
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 10:26pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]e8243[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 08:32pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] §Ú̺س»¼Óªº(±z¤]ºØ¹L), ®L¤Ñ¬O"µ´¨Îªº·Å«Ç"ÀH«K¤]¦³40«×, ¥V¤Ñ§ó¬O"§¹¬üªº§N©Ð", ¥~±´X«×«Î¤l¤º´N´X«×, ¥»¥H¬°¬O³oì¦]³y¦¨ªá¤Öªá¤p¥Íªø°±º¢...ºØºØ¥Í²z»Ùê. ¦³¾÷·|¾a¬IªÎªº§Þ¥©§ïµ½³o ... [/quote] ±z¦í¥x¤¤.·Q¥²¤é·Ó¤£¦¨°ÝÃD.(©¯ºÖ³á!¦³®Ä¤é·Ó¬O¥x¥_¤G¿) ³»¼Ó°£«D»\·Å«Ç.§_«hÀã«×«ÜÃøºû«ù.¦ÓÀã«×¼vÅT«Ü¤j..! µ¹Äõ®è³Ì¤j¥ú·Ó.´î§C·§j.¥t³Æ¤GÅø¦³¼QÀYªº«O¯S²~(³o¼Ë§A¤~¤£·|Ãi±o¬IªÎ) ¤@²~¸Ë¤ô¤@²~¸Ë²GªÎ.¶Ô¥[¼åÄé.¦ü¥G¨S¤°»ò²z¥Ñ¤£¶}ªá¹À..!
-- §@ªÌ¡G e8243
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 11:07pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 10:26pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ³»¼Ó°£«D»\·Å«Ç.§_«hÀã«×«ÜÃøºû«ù.¦ÓÀã«×¼vÅT«Ü¤j..! µ¹Äõ®è³Ì¤j¥ú·Ó.´î§C·§j.¥t³Æ¤GÅø¦³¼QÀYªº«O¯S²~(³o¼Ë§A¤~¤£·|Ãi±o¬IªÎ) ¤@²~¸Ë¤ô¤@²~¸Ë²GªÎ.¶Ô¥[ ... [/quote] Dr. Wu¤£´£·Å«×«o´£Àã«×, ¬OÀã«×¤£¨¬©Ò³y¦¨ªº¼vÅT»·³Ó¹L·Å«×¶Ü? Àã«×³¡¥÷¦Û±q¨â¦~«e±qºô¸ô¾Ç¨Ó³Ä±ß¼å¤ôªk, ı±o¦n«Ü¦h, ÁöµLªkºû«ù¾ã¤Ñ°ªÀã«×, ¦ý¦Ü¤Ö¾ãӱߤW¬Æ¦Ü¨ì¹j¤Ñ¤W¤ÈÁÙ¯àºû«ù¤£¿ùªºÀã«×, §Úªº³»¼Ó¨Ã«D¥|©P³zªÅ, ¶È«e«á¦³µ¡¤á, ¤Ï¦Ó³q·¤£¬O«Ü¦n, ¥[¤F¨â¤ä¹q®°¤Î¤@¤ä©â·¾÷¤~¸Ñ¨M¬õ»jµïªº§xÂZ. §Úªºviolacea¤µ¦~ªºª¬ªp¬O·|¶}ªá, ¦ýÁ`¬O¤@¦·¤@¦·¶}, ³Ì¦h¶}Ó4-5¦·´N¼µ¹L¾ãÓªá©u , ³oºØ±¡ªp¬O¤£¬O´N¬O¯ÊªÎ©Ò³y¦¨ªº?
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 11:18pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]aquarius1[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 09:54pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ½Ð±Ð§dÂå®v¡A agar base ¥X²~®ÉÀ³¬O"¤£¨è·N"¯d¤U¡AY¬O¨è·N¯d¤Uagar base ¡A¹L¦h¤Ï¦Ó¹ïÄõ®è¤p]¤£¦n¡A¤£ª¾³o¼Ë¹ï©Î¤£¹ï? [/quote] ¹ï.´N¬O¤p]®µ¥X«á¥Î¤â¼·±¼ agar base ´N¥æµ¹¹j¾À§@·~û¥ß¨èºØ¤U.¤@³e§@·~. ¤£¬O¨è·N¯d¤U agar
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/11/30 11:41pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]e8243[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 11:07pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Dr. Wu¤£´£·Å«×«o´£Àã«×, ¬OÀã«×¤£¨¬©Ò³y¦¨ªº¼vÅT»·³Ó¹L·Å«×¶Ü? Àã«×³¡¥÷¦Û±q¨â¦~«e±qºô¸ô¾Ç¨Ó³Ä±ß¼å¤ôªk, ı±o¦n«Ü¦h, ÁöµLªkºû«ù¾ã¤Ñ°ªÀã«×, ¦ý¦Ü¤Ö¾ãӱߤW¬Æ¦Ü¨ì¹j¤Ñ¤W¤ÈÁÙ¯àºû«ù¤£¿ùªºÀã«×, §Úªº³»¼Ó¨Ã«D¡@... [/quote] [/quote]Àã«×ªº½T¼vÅT¬Æ¤j.¤j¤Z±q¸¤ùªº¥Íªøµo¨|.¥¿±`§ÎºAªººû«ù ¨ì©âªá±ð.ªá¦·¼Æ.ªá¤j¤p.ªáÃC¦â.ªá¶}¤Ñ¼Æ³£¦³¥¿¬ÛÃö©Ê. ¼Ð·Ç·Å«Ç¤ºªºÃ©wÀã«×.¬ù¦b70~85%.³o¤]´N¬O aquarius1 ¥S»¡ªº. ¦b¼±ÀÀ½¹½ºÄõ jungle ªºì¥Í¥ÍºAÀã«×Àô¹Ò. ¶ð¤ÍºØ½¹½º.§Ú·QªÎ®Æ.¤ô¥÷ªººÞ²z³£¤£®t.¥u¦³Àã«×©M¤é·Ó.¸ûÃø´x±±§a. ºØ¦b¼Ð·Ç¤ôÀð·Å«Ç¤ºªº bellina .alba .¤@¦¸¼Æ±ð.10¾l¦·¦P¶}.¬O«Ü±`¦³ªº¨Æ.³o´N¬O·Å.Àã«×°t¦X©ÒP.§Ú¤§©Ò¥H¥¼´£.¬O¦]¬°¤ôÀð®â°ö¤£Äݱ`ºA.¦ÓµL¤ôÀð®â°ö¤jÀô¹Òªº·Å«×»áÃø§ïÅÜ.¦¹®ÉÀã«×´N·UÅã«n¤F. ¦n¦b P.violacea ¤@±Ú¨Ó¦Û¼ö±a.¯uªº¬O¤£©È¼ö.®L¤é¥¿¤È´X¥G38~42*c¤@¾ã©u.¤]³£ÁÙ¦n. -=-=-=-=-=>
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 00:31am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 10:03pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Dear Dr.Wu: Sorry, ¤@¦¸°ÝÓ°÷!!! ½Ð°Ý·L¶q¤¸¯À¦p¦ó¥Î? ªø´Á¬IªÎ¤Þ°_¤¶½èÆQ¤Æ¦p¦ó³B²z? ±z£x¤ô½è(¾É¹q«×), ¥ú«×(Lux)? Many Thanks. [/quote]1.·L¶q¤¸¯À¥i¨Ò¦æ©Ê¥[¤J¤ô¤¤.°w¹ï¸¤l¨Ï¥Î. ¦ý¥Ñ©ó¸ªí±©`¦Ì®ÄÀ³³y¦¨ªº¥ú·Æ¤£º¢¤ô¯S©Ê.¥i¥[¤@ºw®iµÛ¾¯ ¾¬±æ´£°ªªÎ®Ä.¤S¦]¬°¸¥¿¤Ï¤G±³æ¦ì±¿n®ð¤Õ¤ñ²v®t¤F100¿¥H¤W. ©Ò¥H·L¶q¤¸¯À²z½×¤WÀ³¼Q¦b¸I±®ÄªG¤~·|¦n. 2.©ÈµL¾÷ÆQ¥÷²Ö¿n.¥i¹j¤ë¨RÄé¤j¶qªº¦Û¨Ó¤ô¤@¦¸. 3.°Q½×E.C.È´N¤Ó±M·~¤F.E.C.Ȫº½dÃ¥¥i¼g¤@¥»±M®Ñ.§Ú¥u¯à»¡¥Û¦Ç½è.¨ÈÅK (¶L»ùÅK)§t¶q°ªªº¤ô.¤£¾A¦XºØ½¹½ºÄõ.©Ò¥H¤j³W¼Ò½¹½ºÄõ¶é.³Ì§Cn¨D¤]¥Î¦Û¨Ó¤ô. (¸¹ºÙ R.O.°fº¯³zªº.µ¹¤H¦³ÂI·d¾»ÀYªº·Pı).¦ý¤¤«n³¡¦Û¨Ó¤ô¦hÄݦa¤U¤ô.¦³ªº¦a°Ï ¥Û¦Ç½è»á«.Äõ¤Í¥u¯à¦Û¨D¦hºÖ...!(«õ¦a¤U¤ô¨Ó½æ. ³º¤]¥i¥H³Ûº¦»ù.´Nº¦»ù..?) 4.¥¦ºôÁ`¾Â¥D¦³½gìºØ½¹½ºÄõªº¥ú·Ó»Ý¨Dªí.¤£¤è«KÂàP.O. ½Ð¦Û¦æ°Ñ¦Ò. 5.§Úªº¾B½®¥~ºô60%(20¤Ø°ª).¤ººô50%.¸Õ»Ýn¤~¤â©Ô.Á`¤§¨C¤Ñn¤É.°ºX¤@¦¸. ³o¤]¦n.¤£©ö±o¤¤QªÓ...!
-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 08:00am
[³o½g¤å³¹³Ì«á¥ÑDr-ku¦b 2004/12/01 08:15am ²Ä 5 ¦¸½s¿è]
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 00:31am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] 1.·L¶q¤¸¯À¥i¨Ò¦æ©Ê¥[¤J¤ô¤¤.°w¹ï¸¤l¨Ï¥Î. ¦ý¥Ñ©ó¸ªí±©`¦Ì®ÄÀ³³y¦¨ªº¥ú·Æ¤£º¢¤ô¯S©Ê.¥i¥[¤@ºw®iµÛ¾¯ ¾¬±æ´£°ªªÎ®Ä.¤S¦]¬°¸¥¿¤Ï¤G±³æ¦ì±¿n®ð¤Õ¤ñ²v®t¤F100¿¥H¤W. ©Ò¥H·L¶q¤¸¯À²z½×¤WÀ³¼Q¦b¸I±®ÄªG¤~·|¡@... [/quote]Dear Dr. Wu: Many thanks for your orchid's cultivation teaching in detail. You let me remember that a knowledgeable professor's bedside teaching only for me (a know-nothing intern at that time) 15 yrs ago. Where can I buy the trace elements? How often do you use the trace elements? p.s. About Lux data, from http://www.phalaenopsis.idv.tw/. About R.H and diural temperature data, from http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bernard.lagrelle/AA%20Table%20des%20mati%E8res/table%20des%20mati%E8res.html) Best Regards. Sincerely, Dr. Ku.
-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 08:10am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 08:00am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Dear Dr. Wu: Many thanks for your orchid's cultivation teaching in detail. ?You let me remember that a knowledgeable professor's bedside teaching only for me (a know-nothing intern at t ... [/quote]try this: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bernard.lagrelle/Violacea/anglais/Phalaenopsis%20violacea%20anglais.htm
-- §@ªÌ¡G 622077
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 10:04am
¤Þ¥Î¦ÛGibbosaWu¤j¤j:(¾B½®¨¾á¨Ã¨Ñµ¹¥i@¨ü³Ì±j¥ú·Ó¬°®â°önÂI )........¯uªº£®!¸g¹êÅç:§Úªºvio¨C¤é¥H¤H¤u¥ú·½15000¬y©ú¥H¤W·Ó®g9¤p®É.Áö¸¤ùµy¶À.¦ý¸¤l¤ñè¶R¦^®É°í®¼®Ú¨tÅܲÊ.¶}¥Xªá¦â¿A¸û²`.
-- §@ªÌ¡G e8243
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 11:06pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/11/30 11:41pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Àã«×ªº½T¼vÅT¬Æ¤j.¤j¤Z±q¸¤ùªº¥Íªøµo¨|.¥¿±`§ÎºAªººû«ù ¨ì©âªá±ð.ªá¦·¼Æ.ªá¤j¤p.ªáÃC¦â.ªá¶}¤Ñ¼Æ³£¦³¥¿¬ÛÃö©Ê. ¼Ð·Ç·Å«Ç¤ºªºÃ©wÀã«×.¬ù¦b70~85%.³o¤]´N¬O aquarius1 ¥S»¡ªº. ¦b¼±ÀÀ½¹½ºÄõ jungle ªºì¥Í¥ÍºAÀã ... [/quote] ¦hÁÂDr.WuÄÀºÃ. Ó¤Hı±o³o¨â¦~±N´Ó®èªO´Ó, ¤S¶Ô©ó¼å¤ô, ´Ó®èªøªºÁÙ¤£¿ù, ®L¤Ñ³Ì°ª·Å¤w¥iÀ£¦b40«×¥H¤U, °µªk¬O©â·¾÷¥[¥[Àã¾÷, ¦Ó¥[Àã¾÷¬O©ñ¦b¾a«Î³»ªº¦a¤è, ¦]¬°¼ö®ð¬O©¹¤Wª@, ¥ÎÃú®ð°·Å, ©â·¾÷¤S¥ß¨è§â°ª·Å¤ô®ð±a¨«, ¤£·|¤U¨ì´Ó®è¤W¼vÅT´Ó®è, °·Å®ÄªGÀ³¦³3«×¥H¤W(µI·¨Ò¥~), ¦ý¹ïÀã«×¬O¤@ÂIÀ°§U¤]¨S¦³, §CÀã«×¤Î´H¬yÁÙ¬OµL¸Ñ, §Æ±æ¥¼¨Ó¤]¯à§â³o¨âӴƤ⪺°ÝÃD¸Ñ¨M. «Ü©êºp, ¥DÃD¬O·Å«Ç®â°ö, °Ýªº«o¬O«D·Å«Çªº°ÝÃD, Dr.Wu ¯à§_¤]¶}Ó«D·Å«Ç®â°ön»â, ²¦³º¶ð¤Í¦h¼Æ¤´¦b«D·Å«Ç®â°ö. ¦hÁ¦hÁÂ.
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 11:17pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 08:00am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Dear Dr. Wu: Many thanks for your orchid's cultivation teaching in detail. You let me remember that a knowledgeable professor's bedside teaching only for me (a know-nothing intern at th ... [/quote] Why your professor told his (her) bedside teachings "only" to you alone ? You must be a smart or a intern with good-looking face. You can buy the micro/minor/essential/trace element at chemical materials Co. But commercial products are very common now. They contain all kinds of trace element. I will tell you detailed address tomorrow night .
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/01 11:32pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]e8243[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 11:06pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¦hÁÂDr.WuÄÀºÃ. Ó¤Hı±o³o¨â¦~±N´Ó®èªO´Ó, ¤S¶Ô©ó¼å¤ô, ´Ó®èªøªºÁÙ¤£¿ù, ®L¤Ñ³Ì°ª·Å¤w¥iÀ£¦b40«×¥H¤U, °µªk¬O©â·¾÷¥¬°¼ö®ð¬O©¹¤Wª@, ¥ÎÃú®ð°·Å, ©â·¾÷¤S¥ß¨è§â°ª·Å¤ô®ð±a¨«, ¤£·|¤U¨ì´Ó®è¤W¼vÅT´Ó®è, °·Å®Ä ... [/quote] Áö»¡ "·Å«Ç"®â°ö°On.¦ýì«hn»â¥i¥H¥[´î¤¬³q¹À..!¦óªp±z¯à¥Î¨ì¥[Àã¾÷.·§©À¤wÄݤW¼.®ø¶O»\°ªÀɤFù.
-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 00:15am
[³o½g¤å³¹³Ì«á¥ÑDr-ku¦b 2004/12/02 06:58pm ²Ä 1 ¦¸½s¿è]
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 11:17pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Why ?your ?professor ?told ?his (her) ?bedside ?teachings "only" to ?you ?alone ? You ?must ?be ?a ?smart ?or ?a ?intern ?with ?good-looking ?face. You ?can ?buy ?the micro/minor/essenti ... [/quote]Dear Dr.Wu.: Ya!! This is a long story. ?In a word, there were---------- at that time. So "only" for me. Now, I sometimes ............ (¤]¬O¨S½¼¦ÌÆ[²³) I still would like to ask: How "often" do you use the trace elements? Many Thanks.
-- §@ªÌ¡G OCAD
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 06:20am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]622077[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/01 10:04am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¤Þ¥Î¦ÛGibbosaWu¤j¤j:(¾B½®¨¾á¨Ã¨Ñµ¹¥i@¨ü³Ì±j¥ú·Ó¬°®â°önÂI )........¯uªº£®!¸g¹êÅç:§Úªºvio¨C¤é¥H¤H¤u¥ú·½15000¬y©ú¥H¤W·Ó®g9¤p®É.Áö¸¤ùµy¶À.¦ý¸¤l¤ñè¶R¦^®É°í®¼®Ú¨tÅܲÊ.¶}¥Xªá¦â¿A¸û²`. [/quote] §d«e½ú~ º¸µ¥´N¹³¬O°®®ü´Ö¤@¼Ë.§V¤Oªº§l¦¬µÛ¦¹©«¤¤ªºª¾ÃÑ°Ú!! ½Ð°Ý¤@¤U"15000¬y©ú"¬O«ülum¶Ü?! §Ú¤@ª½®³®º¤£¦n¿OºÞ¸Ó¦h¤Ö.¦h«G.¥H¤Î´XÓ¤p®É¬O³Ì¨Îªº(¦b¥¿±`.¤£¶Êªá¤U) §Ú¨Ï¥Îªº¿O¬O ¤@°¦33w. light output:470 lum.¦â·Å:3050k §Æ±æ«e½ú̯àÀ°¤p©f¸Ñ´b!¥H¤Î«D±`·P®¦´£¨Ñª¾ÃѪº¦U¤j¤jÌ! :em25:
-- §@ªÌ¡G OCAD
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 06:27am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]OCAD[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/02 06:20am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] §d«e½ú~ º¸µ¥´N¹³¬O°®®ü´Ö¤@¼Ë.§V¤Oªº§l¦¬µÛ¦¹©«¤¤ªºª¾ÃÑ°Ú!! ½Ð°Ý¤@¤U"15000¬y©ú"¬O«ülum¶Ü?! §Ú¤@ª½®³®º¤£¦n¿OºÞ¸Ó¦h¤Ö.¦h«G.¥H¤Î´XÓ¤p®É¬O³Ì¨Îªº(¦b¥¿±`.¤£¶Êªá¤U) ... [/quote] ¹ï¤F~§Ú¸É¥R¤@¤U.¤j³¡¥÷ºô¯¸or®ÑÄyª¾ÃѤ¤´£¨ìªº¥ú·Ó.³£¬O¥H"lux"¬°³æ¦ì.¦ý§Úªº¿OºÞ¼Ð¥Ü½T¥H"lum".lum¬O¤°»ò©O?!©Mlux«Ü¤j¤£¦P¶Ü?! ÁÂÁÂ!! :em14: :em14:
-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 09:25am
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]OCAD[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/02 06:27am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ¹ï¤F~§Ú¸É¥R¤@¤U.¤j³¡¥÷ºô¯¸or®ÑÄyª¾ÃѤ¤´£¨ìªº¥ú·Ó.³£¬O¥H"lux"¬°³æ¦ì.¦ý§Úªº¿OºÞ¼Ð¥Ü½T¥H"lum".lum¬O¤°»ò©O?!©Mlux«Ü¤j¤£¦P¶Ü?! ÁÂÁÂ!! [/quote]The lux is the International System unit of illumination, equal to one lumen per square meter.Y¬OÂI¥ú·½: ¶ZÂ÷ 1 meter £x·Ó«× = 470/(1 x1) = 470Lux, ¶ZÂ÷ 20cm £x·Ó«× = 470/(0.2 x 0.2) = 11750Lux = 11.75Klux; Y«DÂI¥ú·½ (tube, etc.):¤£¯à¥Î¦¹¤½¦¡... ps. ÁÙn¦Ò¼{ reflector.
-- §@ªÌ¡G mosquito
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 11:38am
Dr-ku, ±z¹ï¬y©ú.·Ó«×ªº©w¸q¸ÑÄÀªº«Ü²M·¡! ¦b®â°ö¤W.«nªº¬O·Ó«×.©M¦â·Å. ¦â·Å¦b6000-7000k¤ñ¸û±µªñ¤Ó¶§¥ú.3050k¤w±µªñ¿Oªw¦â¤F. ¦b¤£·Q¼W¥[¹q¤O®ø¯Ó.¨Ï¥Î¦P¼Ë¿OºÞ¼Æªº±¡ªp¤U. n¼W¥[·Ó«×.±oÁYµu¶ZÂ÷.¦ýnª`·N¿OºÞ²£¥Í¼ö¹ï·Å«×ªº¼vÅT. ¥t¤@Ӥ覡¬O¼W¥[¤Ï®g²v.¾A«×ªº¨Ï¥Î¾Tºä¯È.¥i±N°k¶hªº¥ú½u¤Ï®g¦^¨Ó. §Ú¹ê»Ú¦b¿ì¤½«Ç®à±®â°öªº¸gÅç¬O.¨âÓÁ³±Û¿OªwÂi¿O.¶ZÂ÷Äõªá30-40cm¥ª¥k. P.violacea var.blue,P.mariae, P.lindenii,¥xÆW»Äõ,etc...³£¥i¥¿±`¥Íªø¶}ªá.
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/02 02:19pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/02 00:15am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] Dear Dr.Wu.: Ya!! This is a long story. In a word, there were no one interested in physical examination of heart in our intern group at that time. So "only" for me. Now, I sometimes did ... [/quote] twice per month
-- §@ªÌ¡G OCAD
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/05 12:05pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]Dr-ku[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/02 09:25am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] The lux is the International System unit of illumination, equal to one lumen per square meter.Y¬OÂI¥ú·½: ¶ZÂ÷ 1 meter £x·Ó«× = 470/(1 x1) = 470Lux, ¶ZÂ÷ 20cm £x·Ó«× = 470/(0.2 x 0.2) = 11750Lux = ... [/quote] ÁÂÁ«e½ú»¡©ú..ÁöµM§Ú¼Æ¾Ç¤£¦n...ÁÙ¬O¨S¦³«ÜÀ´ :em14: ¨º."¬y©ú"´N¬Olux.«DlumÅo?! :bbb|||| [quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]mosquito[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/02 11:38am[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] §Ú¹ê»Ú¦b¿ì¤½«Ç®à±®â°öªº¸gÅç¬O.¨âÓÁ³±Û¿OªwÂi¿O.¶ZÂ÷Äõªá30-40cm¥ª¥k. P.violacea var.blue,P.mariae, P.lindenii,¥xÆW»Äõ,etc...³£¥i¥¿±`¥Íªø¶}ªá. [/quote] ½Ð°Ý¤j¤j.±z¬O¥Î´¶³qªºÁ³±Ûª¬Âi¿O¿Oªw(´Xw©O?)ºØ´Ó.¤£¬O¥Î´Óª«¿O¤]¥i¥H³á!? :em17:
-- §@ªÌ¡G mosquito
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/05 03:30pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]OCAD[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/05 12:05pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ½Ð°Ý¤j¤j.±z¬O¥Î´¶³qªºÁ³±Ûª¬Âi¿O¿Oªw(´Xw©O?)ºØ´Ó.¤£¬O¥Î´Óª«¿O¤]¥i¥H³á!? [/quote] ´N¬O¤@¯ëªºÁ³±Û¿OºÞ.¬ù20W¥ª¥kªº¨ººØ. ¬O¤£¬O´Óª«¿OºÞ§Úı±o¨S¦³¤j®t§O.(´Óª«¿OºÞ.©MºØ¤ô¯ó¥Îªº¤Ó¶§¿OºÞ³£¤ñ¸û¶Q) ¤H¤u¥ú·½²¦³º¤ñ¤£¤W¦ÛµM¥ú·½.¤@¯ë¦bºØ¤@¨ÇÃø·dªº(§N²D.»Ý¥ú©Ê¸û§Cªº, ex: javanica, lindenii, mariae...) ¤@¨Ç»Ý¥ú©Ê±jªº, ex: cornu-cervi, amabilis, parishii, lowii «hÁÙ¬O¦ÛµM¥ú·½®â°ö¸û¦n.
-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/05 08:57pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/06 01:46pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/07 02:17pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 04:49pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G aquarius1
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 06:00pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G GibbosaWu
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 06:09pm
[quote][b]¤U±¤Þ¥Î¥Ñ[u]GibbosaWu[/u]¦b [i]2004/12/08 06:04pm[/i] µoªíªº¤º®e¡G[/b] ´«ºâ¦^¥h56.¦h.«Üªñ57.¦ý§A¬O18W.57%ªº.¦b15cm³BÀ³¸Ó¬°25000lum¤~¹ï.©Ò¥Hn¥hphilips¤½¥q¤F...! ¬Ý¬Ý57lum/w¬O¥H¦h°ª¶ZÂ÷¬°·Ç? [/quote] ©êºp. ¬O¥h "°Ý" philips ¤½¥q.(¥i§_¤Wºô¬d?)
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 06:25pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 07:13pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 09:43pm
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-- §@ªÌ¡G Dr-ku
-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/08 10:10pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/09 01:19pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/09 03:19pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/09 06:19pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/11 00:47am
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/11 06:14pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2004/12/15 05:54pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2005/07/30 11:43pm
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-- µoªí®É¶¡¡G 2005/08/01 11:06pm
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